John May

Dr. John May

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I have been a part of the Mathematical Software Group at Maplesoft since 2007. I have a Ph.D in Mathematics from North Carolina State University as well as Masters and Bachelors degrees from the University of Oregon. I have been working on research in computational mathematics since 1997. I currently work on symbolic solvers and visualization as well as other subsystems of Maple.

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Another option here is to convert the expresion to exp form: convert(Eq,exp)

I have fixed this problem in the development version of Maple, and in future versions of Maple the explicit solutions will be found without any workarounds.

@WD0HHU Thanks!  It was really hard to make visualizations that looked this good in Maple 10 years ago, but over time there has been a lot of great work by many people on the team so we're now at the point that is pretty straight forward to put all the pieces together for something like this, as you can see in the worksheet.

@sursumCorda The Steam Desk does okay on this one, but since it churns through a lot of memory (20GB!) I find my Workstation with 32GB of RAM does a little better than the Deck that has only 14GB (2GB is used for  the gpu I believe).

Here's the Steam Deck running almost 7 minutes CPU time when my Xeon E5 does it in just less than 5 minutes, most of the difference being in GC time.

In most applications, it might be better to interactively format one graph at a time and then call DrawGraph with layout=user (or layout=default or no layout option at all) to use the saved positions (you can also grab them using GraphTheory:-GetVertexPositions to use with GraphTheory:-SetVertexPositions in a different session).

@acer said:

A technique used within some routines under int, is, etc, consists of storing (up front) a FAIL result for a call to a procedure that might eventually induce an identical call to itself. If this is performed prior to the first call, and if a suitable check for that value is made upon re-entry, then infinite recursion errors might be prevented.

acer puts their finger on what can cause the second call to int to succeed after the first one fails. There is a FAIL being stored in a remember table somewhere above where the infinite recursion exception occurs. So, the next time an identical calls is made a FAIL gets returned instead and then the computation takes a different path and doesn't trigger the exception.

So, one possible solution is to put the FAIL in a remember table even lower down the call stack so that the infinite recursion doesn't happen at all. But like wrapping code in blanket try-catch statements, that sort of thing should definitely only be used as a last resort. I avoid adding these sorts of remember table based recursive loop traps because in most cases they are not fixing problems but only wallpapering over them and end up creating new cases of unpredictable/non-reentrant/session-dependent behavior while potentially hiding other problems as well.

This particular example is pretty interesting and, I think, instructive: a couple calls after RationalFunction, the integrator is checking if F <> convert(F, parfrac, x) before recursing back to RationalFunction(F,x). The infinite recursion happens in the case that the parfrac conversion returns a rational function not indentical to F but still essentially the same (in this case F:=1/(-10*exp(2)*_z+25*_z^2+exp(4)-50*exp(2)+250*_z+625)). A lot of infinite recursion bugs end up looking a lot like this and the fix is to do a more careful check rather than just checking equality.

> F:=1/(-10*exp(2)*_z+25*_z^2+exp(4)-50*exp(2)+250*_z+625);
                                             1
            F := ----------------------------------------------------------
                                      2
                 -10 exp(2) _z + 25 _z  + exp(4) - 50 exp(2) + 250 _z + 625

> convert(F, parfrac, _z);
                                           1
               ---------------------------------------------------------
                    2
               25 _z  + (-10 exp(2) + 250) _z - 50 exp(2) + exp(4) + 625

# in this case, Maple knew F should have a better partial fraction decomposition
# but it needs special help to get it, since it involves transcendental constants
> frontend(convert, [eval(F,exp(4)=exp(2)^2)], [], parfrac, _z);
                                          1
                                ----------------------
                                                     2
                                (-exp(2) + 5 _z + 25)

# If parfrac had produced this, calling RationalFunction recursively would work

So in this case, you really want to check if the parfrac conversion factored the denominator (or, in general, created a sum) rather than simply checking equality.

@vv @LichengZhang that bug in DrawPlanar was actually fixed last year and so the next version of Maple will work better on this example.

@Scot Gould It's the San Gabriel mountains but west of Baldy.  The picture from is the top of the Brown Mountain fire "road" where it turns into the Ken Burton Trail https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/4902656

You couldn't come up with a better answer than Batman, John? smdh

@Jakey  Jake,

I am not sure whether I can disclose the exact details since that code isn't pubic (but, it is pretty easy to figure out by poking at gmp_isprime with some known Miller-Rabin psuedo-primes). I can say that isprime uses Miller-Rabin to get very fast composite number detection.  As you can see in the code, it only trusts a "true" from gmp_isprime result if N < 5*109. For larger numbers, it throws out the Miller-Rabin answer and does a Lucas pseudoprime test which is implemented in pure Maple code.

I executed this in your worksheet and it seems to work fine:
DocumentTools:-SetProperty(Table1, fillcolor[1,1], [255, 99, 1]);

Nice work.

I was going to suggest adding colors to the numbers, but then I downloaded the worksheet and saw that you already had. :)

It's too bad that the cloud version doesn't seem to support that.  Did you try setting the table cell background color as well as the textArea?  That might partially work in the Cloud (and also look a little better in offline Maple).

@vv Thanks.  I will file a bug report for that.

@vv Oh yeah, SolveTools:-SemiAlgebraic might return them as well (they come from RegularChains), in parametric cases where they can't actually be converted to proper indexes.

Some favorite primes I've seen recently.
Prime burger:

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111111111111116658508830068803808856080688080351108580888088380311111111111111
111111111118060068005080600380860880808880588808063005886388088680111111111111
111111111808868608068113888886888388001115880066650888808080836808881111111111
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111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
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111111111111111305808088605086888066838633080508068000836608880111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

A dangerous vigilante:

111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111181111111181111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111113011111111111186111111081111111111110011111111111111111111
111111111111111183838111111111111108811110601111111111111008861111111111111111
111111111111160066880111111111111108086508861111111111111000588001111111111111
111111111136850500006111111111111188588586501111111111111388038588081111111111
111111118008806568338111111111111808888035680111111111111868806880588611111111
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111100050088668608008881111111108888008888883801111111186080808600800888331111
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111111111118865111111111111111111111163851111111111111111111111888811111111111
111111111111111011111111111111111111118811111111111111111111118111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

The Jet Propulsion Laboratory Logo:
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116608008080830085888111188636801111111111111111111111868880880880588388811
111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

Finally <insert joke about Pi being prime>

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111111111180080080608088088863860030680503068506850585858888806860860858060611
111111111888680806080883886308063633080058860368806380035688008880688656005311
111111108808833000880600080000803330688058805850008803088888808888688088880511
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111111110885836508888886881111111111111111111185865680068088868806808008111111
111111110006888858656658611111111111111111111116388088880000066885038081111111
111111111088858068330868111111111111111111111111180888066850580066608811111111
111111111100658808003811111111111111111111111111111083856008088568811111111111
111111111111160886611111111111111111111111111111111111118865088111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

 

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