This happens each time I run a long loop.  (2,500 iterations, which takes about 3 hrs to complete)

Maple always hangs (it does not time out on odetest() ). But my question is not about this (as this is something I have to deal with for long time now and mentioned it before many times. May be one day Maplesoft will fix this). 

But I noticed this also.  When Maple hangs, (and it always hangs at least once during this loop), I then click on the button "interrupt the current operation". This does stop the hangs.

Next I do a restart and starts the loop from the loop counter where it hanged in order to continue.  

But It still hangs at that same iteration. I repeate this again, and it still hangs.

Now I close Maple altogether, start Maple again, open same worksheet, and repeat from the same iteration again from where it was at before, now it does not hang.

This tells me that restart and "interrupt the current operation" do not clean everything as expected. Else why only restarting Maple makes it work?

It means mserver.exe (separate process from the frontend) still is caching something related, and that is why it hangs at that iteration.

I can reproduce this each time I run the whole loop from the start.

I can't make a minimal example, since I have no idea where it hangs and why. And it is related to running a long loop.

I just know it hangs when doing odetest() with timeout which never timeout, and it seems random at what iteration it decides to hang.

But my question is really basic here: Does mserver.exe keep any information about the earlier user session/worksheet even after restart ? help says that restarts clear internal memory of the kernel.

Isn't mserver.exe  the Maple kernel? If so, then what could explain that only restarting Maple clears the hang? I am just looking for ideas that could explain this.

This type of problem is the most annoying thing about Maple for me. 

Maple 2020.1 on windows 10.

Maple can return multiple values as expression sequence. The problem with this is that if one of the values is NULL, then one gets an error on the receiving end.

For example, suppose a proc foo() is meant to return 3 separate values. When doing 

  a,b,c := foo() 

This will fail if one of the values was NULL. For example, if b  was NULL, then Maple returns a,c only. The NULL value is discarded.

foo:=proc()
 local a,b,c;
  a:=1; b:=NULL; c:=3;
  return a,b,c;
end proc;

a,b,c := foo()

Error, mismatched multiple assignment of 3 variables on the left side and 2 values on the right side

I'd like to use NULL to indicate that this variable has no value (may be it could be something that could not be computed inside foo, or some solution that could not be found, and for any other reason.)

So currently I use {} instead of NULL everywhere to indicate no value for that variable and that works

foo:=proc()
 local a,b,c;
  a:=1; b:={}; c:=3;
  return a,b,c;
end proc;

a,b,c := foo()

And now I check using if b={} instead of if b=NULL and that works OK for what I want.

It would be nice if one could do this

  [a,b,c] := foo() 

And even if b was NULL, it will still keep that slot. But Maple will also replace [a,b,c]  with [a,c]  if b was NULL

So what is NULL used for in Maple exactly? (help says it is used to initialize an expression sequence). Since one can't return NULL as value.

In Mathematica, NULL can be returned as an actual value. For example

foo[] := Module[{a, b, c},
  a = 1; b = Null; c = 3;
  {a, b, c}
 ];

{a, b, c} = foo[]

gives

    {1, Null, 3}

My question: is using {} in place of NULL a common practice  in Maple to indicate no value for a variable being returned? Or is there a better way than this?

What is a good way to determine, at run time, a free symbol to use inside a proce, so it does not appear the same as one being passed in from outside?

Here is the problem. Inside a proc, user calls it with an ODE. The independent variable is passed in as the argument called x

Inside this proc, it does change of variables to do something else.  If the proc uses say t as the new variabe, this could be the same as the passed in argument in the way it appears when being printed out to file.  

I know the local symbol t is not the same as the passed in symbol, even if that happend to be t also. As one is local and the other is not. So the math will still work, but the display will look very confusing to the user.

But since I am printing these out, these will show the same. 

So I need a way to make symbol inside proc, which looks different from the one being passed in.

An example will show the problem. 

foo:=proc(ode::`=`,y,x)
local t; #hoping this will not be the same looking as actual x
return PDEtools:-dchange({x=t^2},ode,t)  
end proc;

Now it is called as

ode:=diff(y(x),x)=sin(x);
foo(ode,y,x)

Which gives

The above worked, because the independent variable being passed in happend to be x

But if the proc was next called using global t as the independent variable

ode:=diff(y(t),t)=sin(t);
foo(ode,y,t)

The output will be the same. Which looks confusing.

I want the out in this case to be using different letter than t, say z

The point is, the proc needs to use different looking symbol. Since it does not know which symbol the user is using, currently I use Z  since this is not likely to be used as independent variable by a user. most odes use x or t or z as independent variables

Again, this is all for display purposes, as I am printing these out, and want to avoid using the same looking symbol.

What is a good way to come up with symbol that does not look like the one being passed in?   The option of the user passing in the extra variable to use for this is not possible at all, as this is done deep inside and asking the user to pass in the spare symbol to use is not possible.

For last 4 hrs, I've been chasing this problem.

Inside a module, there is a proc with a name say foo().

It is local to the module. When creating an .mla file that contains this module which was read from .mpl file, and running a test against it, Maple does not see this specific proc foo() as a proc, but only sees it as a symbol.

So the call to foo() never happens (error is generated).

I have a print statement inside foo() also which never prints. In the debugger, when I try to step into foo(), it fails also. Maple simply does not see it as a proc.

I also added my_module:-foo() in call, but this made no difference, even though it is not needed to prefix the module name, since foo is a local proc.

Now, instead of making an .mla, I now just read the .mpl file directly which make up the module. And now run the same test, and now maple see foo() as proc and the test runs with no error.

No change in the code at all. Nothing changed, exacept the test is called one time when package is inside the .mla vs. just using plain .mpl files.  The module has option package on it.

It seems something goes wrong with symbol table when inside mla file.

When I do 

libname := currentdir(), libname;
LibraryTools:-Browse()

And browse the content inside my mla file, I see no problems, it lists all 24 procs inside the package, and I can see foo listed there as type PROC.

But in the code, what printing whattype(foo)  it says it is symbol when using mla file, but it says it is a procedure when not using mla, but just by reading the .mpl file which went into the .mla

I will try to make an example to reproduce this if I can. But has any one seen something like this before? What could cause this?  I've restarted Maple ofcourse, and this made no difference.

The way I build the mla is

FileTools:-Remove(cat(currentdir(),"/my.mla"));
LibraryTools:-Create(cat(currentdir(),"/my.mla"));

read cat(currentdir(),"/my_module.mpl");
LibraryTools:-Save('my_module',"my.mla");

For now, I will stop using .mla and just read the .mpl file each time to use the code, as this seems safer and this always worked and never gave any problems.

The code is large. I also use database. So I am not sure I can make a small example but will try.  

I am using 2020.1 on windows 10.

I am not able to use Maple's map() to do the following. Given 2 lists of things (of equal length), map a function that take 2 arguments, from these 2 lists, in order.  Here is an example to illustrate. In Mathematica

a = {1, 2, 3}; b = {7, 8, 9};
MapThread[f, {a, b}]

           {f[1, 7], f[2, 8], f[3, 9]}

In Maple, I tried map and map2, map[n] etc.. not able to get the result I want. I want to use map, and not ~

A:=[1,2,3];
B:=[7,8,9];
map((x,y)->f(x,y),A,B)

          [f(1, [7, 8, 9]), f(2, [7, 8, 9]), f(3, [7, 8, 9])]

map[2]((x,y)->f(x,y),A,B)

           [f([1, 2, 3], 7), f([1, 2, 3], 8), f([1, 2, 3], 9)]

and other things.

How to get same result as MapThread, using map?