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I was trying New-Display-Of-Arbitrary-Constants-And-Functions- but found a small problem.

in my code I build the constants of integrations using parse("_C"||N); where N is an integer that can go up to as many constants of integration are needed. For example, for 4th order ode, there will be 4 of them.

I noticed only the first 2 come out using the nice c__1,c__2 notation, but anything after 2 ,they come out using old notation _C3, _C4.

Here is a MWE

restart;

interface(version);

`Standard Worksheet Interface, Maple 2022.2, Windows 10, October 23 2022 Build ID 1657361`

Physics:-Version();

`The "Physics Updates" version in the MapleCloud is 1346 and is the same as the version installed in this computer, created 2022, October 7, 13:4 hours Pacific Time.`

restart;

dsolve(diff(y(x),x)=1,arbitraryconstants=subscripted);
pdsolve(diff(psi(x,t),x$2)=0,arbitraryfunctions=subscripted);

y(x) = x+c__1

psi(x, t) = f__1(t)*x+f__2(t)

_C1

c__1

for N from 1 to 4 do
    parse("_C"||N);
od;

c__1

c__2

_C3

_C4

 


So now my solution comes out with mixed looking constants. Why does this happen for N>2?

Download problem_with_C.mw

So for now, I went back to using the old method of using alias as follows

restart;

alias(seq(c[k] = _C||k, k = 0..10)):

_C1

c[1]

for N from 1 to 4 do
    parse("_C"||N);
od;

c[1]

c[2]

c[3]

c[4]

 

Download problem_with_C_alias.mw

Is this new in Maple 2022.2 or was it there before? I have no way now to verify. Could someone please check? I am not using assuming anywhere, so this must be internal.
 

interface(version);

`Standard Worksheet Interface, Maple 2022.2, Windows 10, October 23 2022 Build ID 1657361`

restart;

ode := diff(f(Z), Z$2) = 3602879701896397*(3860741894751515/1125899906842624 + (5048392920194975*f(Z)^2)/1073741824 - (2484212754397225*f(Z)^4)/1073741824 - (321579057930643*f(Z)^6)/2147483648 - (4936153155163025*f(Z)^8)/2251799813685248)/(4611686018427387904*f(Z)^3*(4178268760908915/1073741824 + 315761000*f(Z)^2));
dsolve([ode,f(0)=1,D(f)(0)=0])

diff(diff(f(Z), Z), Z) = (3602879701896397/4611686018427387904)*(3860741894751515/1125899906842624+(5048392920194975/1073741824)*f(Z)^2-(2484212754397225/1073741824)*f(Z)^4-(321579057930643/2147483648)*f(Z)^6-(4936153155163025/2251799813685248)*f(Z)^8)/(f(Z)^3*(4178268760908915/1073741824+315761000*f(Z)^2))

Error, (in dsolve) when calling 'assume'. Received: 'the assumed property or properties cannot be satisfied'

 


Maple 2022.2 on windows 10

Download dsolve_nov_10_2022.mw

This integral produces very large result and division by zero when simplified. I do not have earlier version of Maple to check if this is a new problem or not

f:=1/(3*u^(2/3)+3*((-4*u^(1/3)+1)*u^(4/3))^(1/2)-12*u);
anti:=int(f,u);
MmaTranslator:-Mma:-LeafCount(anti);
simplify(anti)

For reference, this is Mathematica's results with leaf count only 35 instead of 41,385 and no problem when simplifying.

f=1/(3*u^(2/3)+3*((-4*u^(1/3)+1)*u^(4/3))^(1/2)-12*u)
anti=Integrate[f,u]
LeafCount[anti]
Simplify[anti]

Could someone please check if this fails same way on earlier Maple version?

in the context of solving an ode, sometimes the constant of integration that will satisfy an initial condition is +infinity or -infinity.

But Maple's solve does not find such solutions to the constant of integration. It only can solve for finite value if it can.

When this happens, I manually try taking the limit as the constant of integration goes to +- infinity, until I get an equation where both sides are the same or fail, and then give up.

I was wondering if there is a way or different command/package which will find solution such as infinity (which is valid solution to constant of integration).

Here are two examples

ode:=diff(y(x),x)=1/(LambertW(-exp(-1+_C1+x))+1);
ic:=[diff(y(x),x)=1,x=0];
eq2:=eval(ode,ic);
solution_for_constant := solve(eq2,_C1,'allsolutions'=true,'tryhard'=true);

Maple can not solve for _C1. It gives

But when trying manually few values, I find that _C1=-infinity satisfies the equation

limit(rhs(eq2),_C1=0);
limit(rhs(eq2),_C1=1);
limit(rhs(eq2),_C1=-1);
limit(rhs(eq2),_C1=infinity);
limit(rhs(eq2),_C1=-infinity);

The above shows that _C1 = -infinity is the constant of integration. Another simpler example

eq:=exp(-1 + _C1) = 0;
solution_for_constant:=solve(eq,_C1) assuming real;
limit(lhs(eq),_C1=-infinity)

The above shows that _C1=-infinity is solution for exp(-1+C_1)=0.  which one can see by just looking at it as exp(-infinity)=0.  Adding assumptions did not help.I also tried symbolic option.

I am not familar with SolveTools package, may there is something there.

So for now, my code just try the limit until it finds solution or gives up.

Any suggestions if Maple itself can find such solutions?

Maple 2022.2

I have few questions on this subject.

1) One can view internal maple procs using the command showstats. For example showstat(`dsolve`) prints the dsolve proc. And showstat(`dsolve/SERIES`)  prints the proc called  dsolve/SERIES(). And this i s what I do not understand. What is the signifcance of in the above?    Since dsolve itself is a proc, what does mean? does this means SERIES is an internal proc inside dsolve proc? That is not likely. I see things like convert/tan/simpler again, what does the mean here? it can't be that simpler is an inner proc inside tan proc which is inside convert proc? I never used /  myself in mycode in a proc name.

How are these procs organized physically? I mean inside Maplesoft computers. Is each proc in separate .mpl file? How does the /  comes into play?  I tried to make a proc myself with forward / but got syntax error. So this / must mean some other logical relation, but I do not know to emulate it myself.

 

2) Why one must add ` ` around the names when using showstats for system procs, but not for my own module? For example, I did the following

A:=module()
  export foo:=proc()
      NULL;
  end proc;
end module;
                    
showstat(A:-foo)

And that worked. But if I type showstat(`A:-foo`)  maple gives error Error, (in showstat) procedure name expected

but with system proc, must have the `` there. If I type showstat(convert/tan/simpler) it is an error.

 

3) Why showstat(`DEtools/odeadvisor`)  gives Error, (in showstat) procedure name expected? But help says odeadvisor is in DEtools module.

 

4) Why can't one display the source of the module itself, and it has to be a proc? For example showstat(`DEtools`) gives error, because `DEtools` is not a proc, but a whole module.

Are these things described more somewhere? I only know about with(LibraryTools); 
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