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sometimes complicated equation is generated and attempt to solve it fail, which is OK. But there is a case, where Maple generates an internal error from solve(). The problem is that it is not possible to even capture this error using try...catch... end try so the whole program crashes.

Is there a way to trap such errors, so at least it can bypass it without solving it but without terminating the whole program? 

According to help it says

The try statement provides a mechanism for executing statements in a controlled environment, where errors will not just cause the execution to halt with no warning.

Well. The above is not really true.

interface(version);

`Standard Worksheet Interface, Maple 2021.2, Windows 10, November 23 2021 Build ID 1576349`

Physics:-Version()

`The "Physics Updates" version in the MapleCloud is 1115 and is the same as the version installed in this computer, created 2021, December 15, 10:0 hours Pacific Time.`

restart;

eq:=-t^m*y+1/12*(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*t^m*y)/(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)+1/12*6^(1/2)*((-(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*t^m*y)/(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)*(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*t^m*y*(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*t^m*y)/(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)+72*(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))/(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3)/(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*t^m*y)/(108+12*(6144*(t^m)^3*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2))^(1/2) = t^(m-1)*(-y+1/12*(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*y)/(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)+1/12*6^(1/2)*((-(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*y)/(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)*(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*y*(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*y)/(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2)+72*(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))/(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3)/(-6*(-(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(2/3)+96*y)/(108+12*(6144*y^3+81)^(1/2))^(1/3))^(1/2))^(1/2)):

sol:=solve(eq,m)  assuming t>0;

Error, (in PolynomialSystemSolvers:-PseudoResultant) too many levels of recursion

try
    sol:=solve(eq,m)  assuming t>0;
catch:
    print("Cought error");
end try;

Error, (in PolynomialSystemSolvers:-PseudoResultant) too many levels of recursion

 

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Other than saving few bytes of memory, why would one use ::static for methods of Object?

I found that if I use ::static, then I have to add prefix _self:- each time an object data member is referenced anywhere, making the code very hard to read.

Imagine having to write  _self:-x + 3* _self:-x^2 + 2* _self:-y^3 and so on all the time, instead of just x+3*x^2+2*y^3. (where it is assumed here that x,y happened to be object private data members and not local variables for a proc inside the module).

But then I found if I remove  ::static now _self:- no longer needed and can still get the benefit of using the object and the code works as before, but the code is now much more readable. 

I know that by not using static, then a copy of each method is made for each new object.

I am OK with that. As I do not use that many objects any way (few at a time before GC cleans the ones I used).

But the benefit of much more readable code far outweights the little extra memory needed, and memory is cheap these days anyway. I got lots of RAM. An extra few MB's is not a big deal.

What Am I missing here? Why does all the Maple help and documenation say that one should use static for object methods then? But do not mention that by not using static:: then the code will become more readable since _self:- is not needed to be appeneded to each variable or method name.

Here is an example below to compare. 

First example uses ::static methods, and the second does not.

One can see the difference The code is more clear in the second.   Is there something else I am overlooking by not using ::static . I am still learning OOP in Maple, and could be overlooking something else. I definitly do not want to code using _self:-variable_name all the time if I have to use OOP in Maple as it makes the code hard to read. 

Notice that in both examples, and for the exported methods, I used _self as first argument. This is OK. This is meant to allow client of the object to call it using object:-method() syntax which is what I prefer instead of method(object,....). syntax.

I am talking about the execssive use of _self internal to the module/object code when having to use ::static. methods.

restart;

person_class_STATIC:=module()
   option object;
   local age:=5;   

   export set_age::static:=proc(_self,age,$)      
     _self:-age:=age:
   end proc:      

   export update_age::static:=proc(_self,age,$)      
      do_the_update(_self)
   end proc:      

   local do_the_update::static:=proc(_self,$)
      _self:-age:=_self:-age+1;
      _self:-age:=sqrt(_self:-age^2+3);
   end proc;

   export get_age::static:=proc(_self,$)      
     return _self:-age;
   end proc:      

end module:

o:=Object(person_class_STATIC);
o:-set_age(100);
o:-get_age();
o:-update_age();

o2:=Object(person_class_STATIC);
o2:-get_age();

_m1982588380672

100

100

2*2551^(1/2)

_m1982698669216

5

person_class_NO_STATIC:=module()
   option object;
   local age:=5;   

   export set_age:=proc(_self,_age,$)      
     age:=_age:
   end proc:      

   export update_age:=proc(_self,$)      
      do_the_update()
   end proc:      

   local do_the_update:=proc()
      age:=age+1;
      age:=sqrt(age^2+3);
   end proc;

   export get_age:=proc(_self,$)      
     return age;
   end proc:      

end module:

o:=Object(person_class_NO_STATIC);
o:-set_age(100);
o:-get_age();
o:-update_age();

o2:=Object(person_class_NO_STATIC);
o2:-get_age();

_m1982698652256

100

100

2*2551^(1/2)

_m1982698629312

5

 

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Without trying it or looking down more, should these two code fragments give same output or not

# CASE 1

restart;
A   :=   2;
B   :=   x+2*y;
t^2 * ( A * B );


#CASE 2
restart;
t^2*( 2 * (x+2*y)  );

One would expect both to give same output, right? CASE 1 just uses variables and CASE 2 just uses the values of these variables. I mean the semantics of CASE 1 and 2 are the same, given that Maple replaces each variable with its value when evaluating.

But Maple does not give same result.

One way to force same result when using variables is to use t^2*(eval(A*B));

My question is why CASE 1 gives different result from CASE 2?  I would have expected same output.

Maple 2021.2 on windows 10. Worksheet.

interface(version);

`Standard Worksheet Interface, Maple 2021.2, Windows 10, November 23 2021 Build ID 1576349`

restart;

A:=2;
B:=x+2*y;
t^2*(A*B);

2

x+2*y

2*t^2*(x+2*y)

restart;

t^2*(2*(x+2*y));

t^2*(2*x+4*y)

restart;

A:=2;
B:=x+2*y;
t^2*(eval(A*B));

2

x+2*y

t^2*(2*x+4*y)

 

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Why would simplify(t^2*x^2+t^2*y^2)  give  (x^2 + y^2)*t^2 but with seemingly same input except changing `+` to `-` fails now to simplify it?  simplify(t^2*x^2-t^2*y^2) gives t^2*x^2-t^2*y^2

Just trying to understand the logic behind this behavior.

In Mathematica both do simplify as can be seen below, which is what one would expect.

Should Maple hangs when one quits a debugger in the middle of debugging session, and there is a call to the same function with a DEBUG break point in it next?

For example

restart;
foo:=proc()
  local x;
  DEBUG();
  x:=x+1
end proc;

And now in the next same execution group, I had

> foo(); #quitting debugger here makes Maple hangs/freeze

  foo();

 

When evaluating the above, the debugger comes up as expected when first call to foo() is made.

When quitting the debugger either by hitting Quit or by hitting the close red X at top right corner, Maple now hangs. I was expecting the debugger to come up again for the second call to foo().  

It seems closing the debugger window like this for some reason is not handled correctly. Even if the user is not supposed to do this, Maple should not just freeze like this.

Nothing I do causes it to unfreeze. Clicking on the ! button does nothing. Only way is to either kill Maple from task manager or close all of Maple if possible and sometimes this does not even work, ending possibly losing work done on other open worksheets.

Maple should be more robust that this. Does this happen on other platforms?

This problem does not happen if the calls were each in a separate execution group in the worksheet. Like this

> foo();

> foo();

Using Maple 2021.2 on windows 10.

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